I want your vote on an RTG casino question

[belgamo]

Many of you know my thoughts on some of the seedy RTG casino operations. What I would like to know is if you want members postings for free chip codes to these operations to still be allowed. At these casinos you will never be able to cash out, so its the same as playing in free play mode.In my opinion it does nothing but help these shady casinos as unsuspecting visitors who do not read my recommended or caution warnings, read these free chip post then may deposit and get screwed.So I ask do you want to see these codes still allowed to be posted or just the codes for legit RTG casino sites. This will be a majority rule situation.I'll let this run for a week or so.  Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.

 

[ohbhave]

Just to play devil's advocate, Belgamo... as much as I have come to dislike the shady shmucks, I think that they should still have their chippies posted here.  For starters, that's what brought me to this forum in the first place, lol.  I was chip whoring and had to get my daily fix of free chippies.

  After taking 'RTG 101' for a couple of weeks, I was soo 'over' it.  You see, the free chippies allowed me to indulge my teeny-tiny gambling addiction (hehe) without feeling the monotary repercussions.  Those shady casinos frustrated the heck outta me time and time again... but, it just made me all the more wiser now about where I do deposit & play.  Every casino forum has them posted, but only this forum actually gave me advice and an opinion about them.  So, all in all, I say yes - you should keep posting them, you'll stand the chance of losing traffic if not.  Forum members just need to keep posting their negative experiences as well, though.  It also will help keep the forum on neutral ground, which is always a good thing.

 

[bb28]

Like a lot of folks, when I was a newbie, my first experiences were on the seedy side of things. Why.......I simply didn't know better. Luckily I never won enough to try to cash out. My vote goes for do NOT allow the codes. My reasons......suppose you are fairly new to gambling and you haven't taken the time to do the reading and the research that is needed to be safe and get your fix from only reputable places. Let's say you get lucky....you win at one of these not so reputable places. As many of us know....these places will give you a lot of grief trying to collect your winnings... .IF you can collect your winnings.   We've all read the stories about someone winning a RJ only to not be able to collect because of some obsure term in the T&C's about the cash out being limited because you took that free chip 3 months ago.  That would just make you want to puke and probably swear off online gambling from then on.  IMO......when these codes are freely available we are feeding these places with clueless newbies and we are also keeping them in business.  The only way things will ever change at these places is to stop feeding them clueless newbies and not visit them ourselves.   They can't stay in business without support......and by allowing codes to be posted is feeding them.  Those of us who know better should be responsible enough to not support these places in any way!  Just my 2 cents worth. 

 

[Sookie]

Ohbhave and bb28, you both have totally, wonderful, differences of opinions!I can side with the both of you. As a newbie to online gambling, I came to this forum in search of free chips and the RTG bonuses were the ones that reeled me in ! I kept coming back for more and more (and haven't left yet!) I didn't get burned at any of the casinos during my hunt, thank goodness! As I was becoming a bonus abuser, I was learning a whole lot more about the online gambling world through this forum. Belgamo and the other members made sure that they kept the members informed about all the shady casinos. I was able to make my own educated decisions on where I was going to deposit my hard earned money. After a horrible cash out experience with one of the rogue RTG's, I made a choice to never post about them again. I do not want to support a casino that would treat a depositing player the way they treated me. They do not deserve my time to even write a thank you for the code post. In a nutshell, bring in new members during their bonus hunt, allow the posts of the questionable RTG's, educate our members and our members will make their own choices of who they want to give their business to.-- Edited by Micheleben5 at 22:30, 2008-07-29

 

[bb28]

Great post Micheleben5 and I respect your point of view and yes we do differ a bit in our opinions. "
Different opinions......and views, that is what makes places like this go round and it's all good. "

 

[deej]

I don't think they should be listed!! too many ppl have been ripped and if your new to online gambling or just don't take any notice of the posts that ppl put up about the seedy op's then it's possible to go through a lot of money before you get caught, i'v only been caught on free chips thank god but it would be easy to do."
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On the other hand the massive free chips from these casino's probably brings heaps of players to this site and once they get here you can school ppl in the right places to gamble meaning that you have preformed a great service to the online community."
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so what do u do..."
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i'm voting no just on principle but i can see why they should be listed

 

[belgamo]

What about this?We have 2 RTG BONUS sections instead of one, something like1 <a href="index.spark?forumID=89469&subForumID=392763&p=2" onmouseout="this.style.textDecoration='none'" style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline overline" onmouseover="this.style.textDecoration='overline underline'" class="forumlink">RTG CASINO CODES </a>  from RECOMMENDED RTG CASINOSand 2-<a href="index.spark?forumID=89469&subForumID=392763&p=2" onmouseout="this.style.textDecoration='none'" style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline overline" onmouseover="this.style.textDecoration='overline underline'" class="forumlink">RTG CASINO CODES </a>  PLAY THESE AT YOUR OWN RISKThought?

 

[bb28]

playin4keeps wrote:  Hi, we are all grown adults here, and a lot of these so called shady casinos are not as bad as everyone makes them out to be, a lot of these casinos have very very strict rules about bonuses, using more than one coupon code in a row, opening multiple accounts, and playing certain games... if you violate any of these terms, the casino has every right not to pay you, and lets face it these so called rouge casinos have to pay some players and affiliates, or how would they survive at all?-- Edited by playin4keeps at 07:29, 2008-07-30 

I don't understand your line of thinking.  not as bad as everyone makes them out to be Ok.....opening more than one account, well that is a duh at any place, reputable or not, as for the rest of your sentence.  Are you saying it's fair for some of them to give you a free chip, you use that chip but for the rest of your player lifetime at that casino, your max cashout is 10x or something along those lines?   What about the players they don't pay by using obsure T&C's, what about the run around they give people, making them think they are going to get their money, only to string them along for months then only to get nothing or some small pittance of their original winnings.  If they do this just once.....isn't that enough to say they are really bad news?   The sad thing is.......those places do this every day and then repeat the next day.   Survival...because people are being fooled into thinking......well they really aren't THAT bad.     

 

[deej]

I think thats a much better idea bel it means that you can warn people in a sticky in the shady section up front and let them make there own decision . It also means that the rtg posts don't dry up , you know how tight the ligit rtg's are with free chips lol...I can't figure out how to quote but.. I don't understand your line of thinking.  not as bad as everyone makes them out to be Ok.....opening more than one account, well that is a duh at any place, reputable or not, as for the rest of your sentence.  Are you saying it's fair for some of them to give you a free chip, you use that chip but for the rest of your player lifetime at that casino, your max cashout is 10x or something along those lines?   What about the players they don't pay by using obsure T&C's, what about the run around they give people, making them think they are going to get their money, only to string them along for months then only to get nothing or some small pittance of their original winnings.  If they do this just once.....isn't that enough to say they are really bad news?   The sad thing is.......those places do this every day and then repeat the next day.   Survival...because people are being fooled into thinking......well they really aren't THAT bad.    I TOTALLY AGREE BB!!

 

[jacqueline]

all i can say is wow

 

[krystalkitty]

Like the idea of having 2 different RTG sections.

 

[Kraziegurl79]

I personally don't like the idea of having the shady casino posts. Why waste your time and go through all the trouble with them.....as usual?

 

[zebedy1967]

bb28 wrote: Like a lot of folks, when I was a newbie, my first experiences were on the seedy side of things. Why.......I simply didn't know better. Luckily I never won enough to try to cash out. My vote goes for do NOT allow the codes. My reasons......suppose you are fairly new to gambling and you haven't taken the time to do the reading and the research that is needed to be safe and get your fix from only reputable places. Let's say you get lucky....you win at one of these not so reputable places. As many of us know....these places will give you a lot of grief trying to collect your winnings... .IF you can collect your winnings.   We've all read the stories about someone winning a RJ only to not be able to collect because of some obsure term in the T&C's about the cash out being limited because you took that free chip 3 months ago.  That would just make you want to puke and probably swear off online gambling from then on.  IMO......when these codes are freely available we are feeding these places with clueless newbies and we are also keeping them in business.  The only way things will ever change at these places is to stop feeding them clueless newbies and not visit them ourselves.   They can't stay in business without support......and by allowing codes to be posted is feeding them.  Those of us who know better should be responsible enough to not support these places in any way!  Just my 2 cents worth.  ditto, what bb28 said  

 

[kelwil]

I really like how you have broken down the reputation of the casinos. It helps me out alot knowing which ones I trust and don't. So thanks for all of your work on this!!

 

[belgamo]

Basically it all boils down to player complaints. All casinos no matter what will always have some complaints, you just can't make everyone happy. The ones in the Play at your own risk section have a totally UNACCEPTABLE level of complaints ranging from non payment, bonus issues , and lack of qualified support personnel.  There is no better judge than players when it comes to casinos. I will stand behind every casino I personally have posted about on this it except those in the play at your own risk section. You know I play a bit online and I personally avoid those casino like the plaque.

 

[belgamo]

Its almost a split desicision. I hope you all think what I did was the best way to keep you informed on where to and not to play.

 

[bb28]

Well you gotta do what you feel is best and it is YOUR board. LOL"
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I do wish more people had voted.

 

[jacqueline]

i think that this topic was a good idea so people would know where to play and not to play

 

[wheeler062505]

i personally feel the shady codes should be left out because not only do they rarely payoff but you can get viruses from some of the casinos you have to download just to use the free chip. thank you,Mary wheeler